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Brian Nixon Send message Joined: 12 Apr 20 Posts: 293 Credit: 8,432,366 RAC: 0 |
Yes, something’s clogged up. Tasks are trickling through now and again, so it’s not completely stopped. But I’m not sure we’ll get much attention from the server admins at 02:30 on Christmas morning… :-) |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1993 Credit: 9,520,400 RAC: 11,365 |
Someone needs to give the servers a kick. I think it's difficult during Christmas's week P.S. Mary Christmas to all of you!! |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
buon natale a tutti |
Link Send message Joined: 4 May 07 Posts: 356 Credit: 382,349 RAC: 0 |
11 million queued jobs What matters are "Tasks ready to send" on the Server Status Page and that is near 0. . |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2115 Credit: 41,115,753 RAC: 19,563 |
Plenty of WUs ready to go (11 million queued jobs), but all i get is No Tasks sent when requesting new work to replace returned work (Ready to send is zero). Everyone says ditto. Usually I send a post pre-Xmas msg suggesting a reboot of to make sure everything's ok for the holiday period. This year I was a bit distracted. The week of Monday 4th January is favourite now - and not the beginning of that week either. At least I get time to set up my new PC properly now I'm home. Lots of tweaking to do Merry Christmas. |
Jo Send message Joined: 16 May 20 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,813,274 RAC: 0 |
Are you saying that no one can remote into and reboot the servers? Is so, that is not good. There is a _lot_ of computing and good will lost if there are millions of jobs available and no one can download them. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2115 Credit: 41,115,753 RAC: 19,563 |
Are you saying that no one can remote into and reboot the servers? If so, that is not good. In the past, some holidays have been out of all and any contact. That may not be the case this time, but it's a possibility. Point being, it'll be fixed when it's fixed and complaining repeatedly in the forums has rarely ever solved it |
Edward Dolmatsky Send message Joined: 20 May 06 Posts: 1 Credit: 5,245,807 RAC: 450 |
This time of year I have world community grid on standby because rosetta tends to be down and no one is available to fix it. |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
This time of year I have world community grid on standby because rosetta tends to be down and no one is available to fix it.Yes, I am inclined to throw a little more on OPN anyway since you never know where the new mutations will lead. The project’s primary goal is to search for potential treatments for COVID-19, so studying proteins from SARS-CoV2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is the highest priority.https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/opn1/overview.do I would be happy to consider more Rosetta too if I knew which way they are going. But they don't tell us that. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1671 Credit: 17,527,680 RAC: 23,122 |
As i mentioned in my original post.11 million queued jobsWhat matters are "Tasks ready to send" on the Server Status Page and that is near 0. ...all i get is No Tasks sent when requesting new work to replace returned work (Ready to send is zero). Grant Darwin NT |
Jo Send message Joined: 16 May 20 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,813,274 RAC: 0 |
Are you saying that no one can remote into and reboot the servers? If so, that is not good. I see why the feedbacks are felt like complaints, but what it is meant as is an heads up that people want to do work and that idle CPUs are being wasted. People think that this is to important not to be mentioned because people care, and they get a bit bummed out when the reply can be interpreted as "what ever..." I guess no one is expecting people to leave their families to fix this, but it is a disappointment that there is no one who can spend ten minutes in a remote session to reboot the servers, just in case that helps. To build a strong and lasting community there must be an "us". There must be some feeling of "we are all in on this together". Right now that feeling is diminishing, and that is not good. I do hope there will be made some effort to both stopping this current bug to reappear, and for a solution where low effort incident resolving can be done. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2115 Credit: 41,115,753 RAC: 19,563 |
Are you saying that no one can remote into and reboot the servers? If so, that is not good. This kind of comment never goes down well with me... - "Idle CPUs" is 100% always a user failure - or "bug" as you mistifyingly want to call it - If "people think this is too important not to be mentioned" then they'll have missed it already having been mentioned a dozen times - "ten minutes" - yeah, ok... - "community", "us" - <puke> |
Jo Send message Joined: 16 May 20 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,813,274 RAC: 0 |
Are you saying that no one can remote into and reboot the servers? If so, that is not good. Ok, I have gotten your message and taken my computer off line. |
mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 9,118,186 RAC: 6,004 |
Are you saying that no one can remote into and reboot the servers? If so, that is not good. There are over 30 other Boinc Projects that would love to have your pc crunch for them. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1671 Credit: 17,527,680 RAC: 23,122 |
As does this project.Ok, I have gotten your message and taken my computer off line.There are over 30 other Boinc Projects that would love to have your pc crunch for them. Work available to process, but not being sent out, is a project issue that they need to resolve. To get results, they need to supply the work and fix whatever has caused the supply to come to a halt. Grant Darwin NT |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1993 Credit: 9,520,400 RAC: 11,365 |
Work available to process, but not being sent out, is a project issue that they need to resolve. I think that we cannot see solution until next week....monday, i hope |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2115 Credit: 41,115,753 RAC: 19,563 |
Work available to process, but not being sent out, is a project issue that they need to resolve. You can hope, but anything better than what I said before would pleasantly surprise me The week of Monday 4th January is favourite now - and not the beginning of that week either. In fact, in some years, stop-start supply problems have continued to the end of January, though given there's 11million in the pre-queue we may be spared this time. Wish I was kidding, but past experience tells me this is what we have to expect. |
mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 9,118,186 RAC: 6,004 |
As does this project.Ok, I have gotten your message and taken my computer off line.There are over 30 other Boinc Projects that would love to have your pc crunch for them. Yes they would but the sporadic work makes it difficult for some people to figure things out, especially newbies or those that have focused solely on a single project that's always had work over the years. Those of us who understand how to make Boinc work for US have no problems. |
mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 9,118,186 RAC: 6,004 |
Work available to process, but not being sent out, is a project issue that they need to resolve. And that's the problem with a Project that takes weekends off and seems to treat the tasks as 'a nice thing but not necessary to get done today and not tomorrow is okay too'. It's just life at Rosetta and has been that way for a very long time. |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
And that's the problem with a Project that takes weekends off and seems to treat the tasks as 'a nice thing but not necessary to get done today and not tomorrow is okay too'. It's just life at Rosetta and has been that way for a very long time. It is probably in the nature of the work they send out to us. It is model development as I understand it. But they apparently do the actual folding and design of the proteins themselves. So if we are out of work for a while, they don't really see the effects. They just make it up by sending out more work later. |
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