Can anyone ban this guy from forum, please?

I don't support this.

Social media, which is the anus of humanity, has enabled the ability to distill groups of people to a uniform political ideology. That in my view has been the engine of partisanship.

We need to see the Peter Huffers of the world and they need to be able to see us.

At least you agree with Freedom of Speech, you're getting there. Now read the rest of the policies of the Libertarians and enlighten yourself. No not Liberals, Libertarians.

I'm a realist.

Listen…I realize that your life is such a total failure in every conceivable way that you have to make up some self-defensive fantasy that you are actually elevated and enlightened. The rest of us don't appreciate you, not because you are a POS, but being peasants we can't appreciate how superior you are, even though Dunning-Kruger doesn't exist.

But to me, and apparently to others here, you're just a POS. Deal with it.

I'm not a failure, you're the failure for being scared of a virus. I take it you're scared of spiders too?

it's very likely to experience horrid symptoms (eg flu for 2 days).

stop being such a pathetic little girl.

The posts just write themselves these days.

Why would I deliberately give myself symptoms? No it wouldn't be the end of the world, but neither would the virus I probably won't catch.

Tell me, is 3,163,531 or 9,600,000 a bigger number?

In 2020, 1,806,590 new cancer cases and 606,520 cancer deaths are projected to occur in the United States. That's compared to roughly 500k deaths from COVID over about 9 months.

How about we compare apples to apples, rather than 2012 oranges?

Not only are you a POS, but you are a dishonest POS. Not like it matters anyway. The two things are completely unalike.

Do you really think the cancer rate dropped significantly in 10 years? And why are you concentrating only on the US? Yes I know, Americans don't realise there's a world outside their own country. It's just a desert full of Arabs and oil for you to steal.

If I can't say it's not a cancer death if it's more than 28 days after diagnosis, why don't we count CV19 deaths after 28 days? Slightly changes that proportion figure you mentioned.

Because coronavirus doesn't take so long to kill, as I've already explained.

Because Coronavirus is many multiple times more deadly.
And "cancer" is a generic name for a whole variety of different ailments. I'm currently on my 2nd one. No-one ever died of either of them - both benign.

There are many deadly cancers. and those are the ones I'm talking about and have posted stats for. Coronavirus isn't deadly. Most get no symptoms. Most of those that do feel like they've got the flu. The leaders of both the UK and USA governments had it and survived. And neither of those were particularly healthy.

No, I used a reliable source of information.
Total virus deaths (in the one year it's been around) = 3,163,531
9.6 million cancer deaths worldwide in 2012
Tell me, is 3,163,531 or 9,600,000 a bigger number?

Worldometer isn't reliable for anything.
9.6m is the result of many years of cancers. 3.1m is only the count of deaths within 28 days over 1 year and is unreliable anyway.
The UK count is one of the best and we know it's 40% understated. In India currently they're talking about deaths being 200-500% understated. And I'm pretty sure N.Korea is understated at zero, as is China's made up number.
And with your own numbers, I'm pretty sure 9.6m isn't 4x 3.1m as you claimed at the start, so thanks for confirming you were wrong even by your own dodgy measure.

Still, I'm sure everything else you said was meticulously accurate

Worldometer states facts, not government biased stuff to make sheep do what they say. And 9.6m is for ONE YEAR, I explained that. 9.6 is roughly 4x3.1, the last time (2 months ago) I checked the variable figures it was closer to 4. It's certainly a much larger number than 3.1. So worry about the 9.6, not the 3.1. You are far more likely to die of cancer. As for the numbers being understated, I disagree. They're overstated. How many people catch it, don't get symptoms (or just mild ones) and don't report it? More of us are immune than the hospitals think.

Can anyone ban this guy from forum, please?

I don't support this.

I don't think so.
Ignorance has never help the evolution of mankind
I report to moderators the post where i'm "a patetic little girl".

Which only goes to prove you are one. Awww were you bullied at school? Were you the one that told the teachers when there was a fight everyone else was enjoying?

China is far from the only Country not reporting or under-reporting their Covid numbers...North Korea has had ZERO Covid deaths, and Russia refuses to give any kind of numbers that can be verified, there are also many African Countries that also refuse to acknowledge that Covid is killing their people. The WorldWide deaths from Covid are estimated by experts to be at least double what's being reported.

Maybe those countries aren't so girly? Russians are a tough lot and won't go crying to the UN because a few people die.

The US on the other hand could be over-reporting their Covid death numbers due to the Government paying money to the ER's etc for the PPE etc used to care for a sick Covid pt and leading those places to test everyone for Covid and calling it a 'Covid death' even if the pt actually died of a gunshot wound because they had Covid when they died.

Well you gotta change those gun death stats somehow, they're embarrassing! Why not make a fuss about those instead of the virus and ban guns?

Thinking Covid is nothing to worry about is not using the facts at hand and thinking that getting the vaccine is worse than getting Covid is also just wrong. Sure some people get under the weather for a few days after getting the vaccine but the older you are the less likely that is to happen due the body being exposed to sooo many things over the course of their lives. No one is immune to Covid

Incorrect. There was a cruise liner that was quarantined right at the start of all this. 80% of people never even got symptoms, even though every single person caught it. Plus there's those that got symptoms but survived.

and anyone can get it from the silliest little thing, the gas pump handle, the door knob that the neighbor kid just rattled to scare or bother you, walking thru an area with still air after someone with Covid has walked thru that same area., drinking from a poorly washed mug or cup at the local bar, how many times have you gone into a public bathroom and watched someone pee and walk out without washing their hands?

You claim that, but everyone is concentrating on masks. The postmen wear masks or distance themselves, but hand you a parcel.

Worldometer isn't reliable for anything.
9.6m is the result of many years of cancers. 3.1m is only the count of deaths within 28 days over 1 year and is unreliable anyway.
The UK count is one of the best and we know it's 40% understated. In India currently they're talking about deaths being 200-500% understated. And I'm pretty sure N.Korea is understated at zero, as is China's made up number.
And with your own numbers, I'm pretty sure 9.6m isn't 4x 3.1m as you claimed at the start, so thanks for confirming you were wrong even by your own dodgy measure.

Still, I'm sure everything else you said was meticulously accurate

Worldometer states facts, not government biased stuff to make sheep do what they say. And 9.6m is for ONE YEAR, I explained that. 9.6 is roughly 4x3.1, the last time (2 months ago) I checked the variable figures it was closer to 4. It's certainly a much larger number than 3.1. So worry about the 9.6, not the 3.1. You are far more likely to die of cancer. As for the numbers being understated, I disagree. They're overstated. How many people catch it, don't get symptoms (or just mild ones) and don't report it? More of us are immune than the hospitals think.

Worldometer isn't accurate for anything.
The reason your figure was 4x and changed to 3.1x over time is that you rely on comparing it to the total world pop'n (which is comparatively fixed over the short term) and the deaths figure at the time you look at it, which is still increasing rapidly, that only came to light early last year. By the end of the year it'll be 1 in 2.x and continue to increase. Meanwhile, cancer has existed for more than an average lifetime, so it's the culmination of a lifetime of development.
And, of course, while you may be more likely to die from Cancer over 20+yrs, that's compared to CV19 in 28 days. Apples v bicycles.

There's also no way of telling if you're more or less likely to die of CV19 until after you've had it. Most people haven't had it.
It's a bit like saying people are immune to strychnine because a vanishingly small number of people have taken strychnine. That hardly implies immunity to it.
Irrespective of the number of people who've had CV19, if the number of people who are recorded to have died is dependent on having been tested for it too, which the majority of people haven't, then it makes no difference. So 4.4m positive tested, 152k positive tested <and> died from it, then the proportion is 1 in 29.
Because ONS derived additional deaths that they're not allowed to include in the official numbers only because they don't conform to the definition of a CV19 death that match those unquantified untested infections. You can't have one without the other. It's still 1 in 29 dead, 1 in 9.5 hospitalised.

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The leaders of both the UK and USA governments had it and survived. And neither of those were particularly healthy.

Actually the President of the US came close to being on a ventilator and the only thing that saved him was an EXTREMELY experimental treatment that worked. Despite his 'show of invincibility' the dude almost died from covid!!! He then quietly got vaccinated WHILE telling people he was fit as a fiddle and that Covid was nothing more than a 'mild case of the flu'. He LIED about Covid just like LIED about him 'winning the election'! He lost the election simply because he was a POS as far as how he treated others!!! He became President in 2016 because the ONLY other choice was Hillary Clinton and her reputation was SOOO soiled that if she ran for dog catcher in a hole in the wall town in Arkansas a frickin dog would have won instead of her!!! In the US we do have Green and other so called 3rd political parties but there chance of winning is realistically the same as a snowballs chance in hell. When Trump imitated that handicapped reporter on the News time after time he lost more and more of the "undecided" voters which is the key to winning any National election, then bashing some favorite politicians and war heroes and that recording of him saying to 'grab women by their pussy' he just put his chances out of reach.

Well you gotta change those gun death stats somehow, they're embarrassing! Why not make a fuss about those instead of the virus and ban guns?

America's "problem" with guns has very little to do with guns themselves and more to do with the people that are able to get their hands on them that should NEVER ever be allowed to own a fricking garden trowel!! The Laws are a hodgepodge of State Laws, think of England and Scotland Counties as each making their own Laws and you see the problem except the US is ALOT bigger in area and States.

Which only goes to prove you are one. Awww were you bullied at school? Were you the one that told the teachers when there was a fight everyone else was enjoying?

Maybe it's time you grew up.

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and anyone can get it from the silliest little thing, the gas pump handle, the door knob that the neighbor kid just rattled to scare or bother you, walking thru an area with still air after someone with Covid has walked thru that same area., drinking from a poorly washed mug or cup at the local bar, how many times have you gone into a public bathroom and watched someone pee and walk out without washing their hands?

You claim that, but everyone is concentrating on masks. The postmen wear masks or distance themselves, but hand you a parcel.[/quote]

My postman, we call them mailmen in the US, wear gloves and my neighbor, while wearing gloves and a mask, puts her packages on the porch in the Sun and sprays the heck out of them with Lysol and lets it sit in the Sun until it's dry before bringing it inside her home. She is a retired Nurse and is not taking any chances as she is aware of the potential.

People who have surgery can die afterwards from an infection they GOT while being in the Operating Room, yes the risk is small but viruses are mean aggressive buggers that will kill you if they get the chance!! An Operating Room is aggressively cleaned before and after every surgery and viruses sill survive!!

Worldometer states facts, not government biased stuff to make sheep do what they say. And 9.6m is for ONE YEAR, I explained that. 9.6 is roughly 4x3.1, the last time (2 months ago) I checked the variable figures it was closer to 4. It's certainly a much larger number than 3.1. So worry about the 9.6, not the 3.1. You are far more likely to die of cancer. As for the numbers being understated, I disagree. They're overstated. How many people catch it, don't get symptoms (or just mild ones) and don't report it? More of us are immune than the hospitals think.

Worldometer isn't accurate for anything.

As I said, it's raw unbiassed data. They state their sources.

The reason your figure was 4x and changed to 3.1x over time

An insignificant change.

is that you rely on comparing it to the total world pop'n (which is comparatively fixed over the short term)

So not a problem.

and the deaths figure at the time you look at it, which is still increasing rapidly[quote]Yeah I should have chopped off the earliest which is now over a year ago. So it probably is closer to 4x.

[quote]that only came to light early last year. By the end of the year it'll be 1 in 2.x and continue to increase.

No, because I'm quoting PER YEAR.

Meanwhile, cancer has existed for more than an average lifetime, so it's the culmination of a lifetime of development.

No, I'm looking at deaths per year. Cancer will stay the same until we make cures. Coronavirus will go away. Even if it doesn't, it will stay as it is for this past year, 4x less than cancer.

And, of course, while you may be more likely to die from Cancer over 20+yrs, that's compared to CV19 in 28 days. Apples v bicycles.

It doesn't matter how long it takes, I'm talking about how many people die.

There's also no way of telling if you're more or less likely to die of CV19 until after you've had it. Most people haven't had it.

Well done, most people haven't had it, so why are you worried you will?

There's also no way of telling if the vaccine you're given, which can give you the same symptoms, will stay in your forever and kill you later on.

It's a bit like saying people are immune to strychnine because a vanishingly small number of people have taken strychnine. That hardly implies immunity to it.

It shows it's not a significant problem.

Irrespective of the number of people who've had CV19, if the number of people who are recorded to have died is dependent on having been tested for it too, which the majority of people haven't, then it makes no difference. So 4.4m positive tested, 152k positive tested <and> died from it, then the proportion is 1 in 29.

You're not including those that were never tested and never realised they had it. But you are including all those that got symptoms, because they saw a doctor. So your figures are biased towards pessimism.

The leaders of both the UK and USA governments had it and survived. And neither of those were particularly healthy.

Actually the President of the US came close to being on a ventilator and the only thing that saved him was an EXTREMELY experimental treatment that worked. Despite his 'show of invincibility' the dude almost died from covid!!! He then quietly got vaccinated WHILE telling people he was fit as a fiddle and that Covid was nothing more than a 'mild case of the flu'. He LIED about Covid just like LIED about him 'winning the election'! He lost the election simply because he was a POS as far as how he treated others!!! He became President in 2016 because the ONLY other choice was Hillary Clinton and her reputation was SOOO soiled that if she ran for dog catcher in a hole in the wall town in Arkansas a frickin dog would have won instead of her!!! In the US we do have Green and other so called 3rd political parties but there chance of winning is realistically the same as a snowballs chance in hell. When Trump imitated that handicapped reporter on the News time after time he lost more and more of the "undecided" voters which is the key to winning any National election, then bashing some favorite politicians and war heroes and that recording of him saying to 'grab women by their pussy' he just put his chances out of reach.

That was the best President you ever had, he was a normal person who didn't take everything seriously and was full of common sense unlike the screwed up politicians you normally get. And the point is he didn't die. Neither did anyone I know of. Funny that isn't it?

Well you gotta change those gun death stats somehow, they're embarrassing! Why not make a fuss about those instead of the virus and ban guns?

America's "problem" with guns has very little to do with guns themselves and more to do with the people that are able to get their hands on them that should NEVER ever be allowed to own a fricking garden trowel!! The Laws are a hodgepodge of State Laws, think of England and Scotland Counties as each making their own Laws and you see the problem except the US is ALOT bigger in area and States.

Agreed, but imagine if guns were banned. Most of the nutters currently using them would have a lot more difficulty getting them, and have a high chance of getting caught with one before they go and use it. You'd also remove the deaths caused by kids getting hold of dad's gun he didn't lock up properly.

Which only goes to prove you are one. Awww were you bullied at school? Were you the one that told the teachers when there was a fight everyone else was enjoying?

Maybe it's time you grew up.

You're the one getting upset over nothing, which means you're the child here.

You claim that, but everyone is concentrating on masks. The postmen wear masks or distance themselves, but hand you a parcel.

My postman, we call them mailmen in the US, wear gloves and my neighbor, while wearing gloves and a mask, puts her packages on the porch in the Sun and sprays the heck out of them with Lysol and lets it sit in the Sun until it's dry before bringing it inside her home. She is a retired Nurse and is not taking any chances as she is aware of the potential.

A very small potential, which is why our postmen do not wear masks. In fact I've chatted to quite few of them, at about half a metre away. The only masked people I've seen at my door is one out of the 5 different guys that does supermarket deliveries, and he admitted to me he has OCD.

Slowly (very, very, very slowly) things are recovering as the mis-configured Tasks make their way through the system.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Still getting plenty of failures of the norn_struct_profile_layered_design_ Taks. Probably around a 40% failure rate at present. Tasks complete OK but then fail when trying to return the result. Although you do get Credit for it, it's only a bit over 2/3 of the Credit you get for one that's Valid.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Well you gotta change those gun death stats somehow, they're embarrassing! Why not make a fuss about those instead of the virus and ban guns?

America's "problem" with guns has very little to do with guns themselves and more to do with the people that are able to get their hands on them that should NEVER ever be allowed to own a fricking garden trowel!! The Laws are a hodgepodge of State Laws, think of England and Scotland Counties as each making their own Laws and you see the problem except the US is ALOT bigger in area and States.

Agreed, but imagine if guns were banned. Most of the nutters currently using them would have a lot more difficulty getting them, and have a high chance of getting caught with one before they go and use it. You'd also remove the deaths caused by kids getting hold of dad's gun he didn't lock up properly.

Then we would have the same problem England and Scotland does...people running around with machetes and whacking people to death. The US already has that with some Hispanic gangs and it's not pretty.

Slowly (very, very, very slowly) things are recovering as the mis-configured Tasks make their way through the system.

WOO HOO!!!

The reason your figure was 4x and changed to 3.1x over time

An insignificant change.

Overstating it by 30% is insignificant? More to the point, it indicates that you formed an opinion, then made up some numbers to support it, then looked for a source to support it. I got my information from the American Cancer Society, which is why, BTW, that I quoted USA COVID deaths. Not because I'm arrogantly American (I don't even live in the USA, you clown!), but because it was the most accurate comparison.

Cancer will stay the same until we make cures.

An ignorant statement. Cancer rates have been gradually dropping as sources of cancer are discovered in things like consumer products and eliminated. Living is easy with eyes closed, amirite?

There's also no way of telling if the vaccine you're given, which can give you the same symptoms, will stay in your forever and kill you later on.

Do you have any idea how immunity is formed in the human body? No, of course you don't. When you are infected with a virus for the first time, there is some hysteresis between being infected and your immune system becoming aware that the virus is a threat. During that time, the virus gets a head start, and you fall ill. The symptoms that you express are your body fighting off the infection. If you are able to do so successfully, and not die, your T cells develop a protein on their surfaces that will recognize a virally-infected cell, of the same type, if they encounter it again. The infection can still occur, but the virus loses the ability to get a head start over your immune system.

The vaccines for COVID are mRNA based. That means that they have the genetic code for the coronavirus, but not the ability to infect cells and rewire them to churn out copies of themselves. They are UNABLE to cause COVID. They are UNABLE to replicate. They do, however, trigger an immune system response, which is why there can be symptoms. Eventually, they disintegrate.

Your statement is ignorant because you utterly fail to understand how the vaccines against COVID work. Will that change your mind about the COVID vaccines? No. Will it give you pause that maybe you don't know as much as you think that you know about the subject? Also no. Will it make you engage in some self-reflection to reassess your other beliefs? [checks notes] Still no.

Still getting plenty of failures of the norn_struct_profile_layered_design_ Taks. Probably around a 40% failure rate at present. Tasks complete OK but then fail when trying to return the result. Although you do get Credit for it, it's only a bit over 2/3 of the Credit you get for one that's Valid.

I'm getting work for my hosts which have 8gb or more of memory. The ones with 4gb still are not getting work. The error notice has changed. It used to say that it needed 6.2gb of memory but only 3.1gb was available; now it says that it needs 3.8gb of memory but only 3.1gb is available. So a change was made, but it has no effect, probably because whoever made it didn't research how much memory is required for basic operation of a host with 4gb of RAM.